How to disable a timer service in a snap?

Hi folks, I think this is likely a snapd bug, but just wanted to post on the forum for clarity on the situation.

I have this simple snap which just prints off something every 1 minute:

name: every-1-min
version: '0.1'
summary: every-1-min
description: every-1-min prints something off to the logs every 1 minutes
grade: stable
confinement: strict
    command: echo "hello"
    daemon: oneshot
      timer: 00:00-24:00/1440
    plugin: nil

And when I install the snap, the service shows up as disabled:

$ sudo snap install --devmode every-1-min_0.1_amd64.snap 
every-1-min 0.1 installed
$ snap services
Service                  Startup   Current
every-1-min.every-1-min  disabled  inactive

However, it’s still running fine:

$ sudo journalctl -ef -u snap.every-1-min.every-1-min.service 
-- Logs begin at Thu 2018-09-06 12:58:10 CDT. --
Sep 27 08:38:13 my-computer systemd[1]: Starting Service for snap application every-1-min.every-1-min...
Sep 27 08:38:13 my-computer every-1-min.every-1-min[21791]: hello
Sep 27 08:38:13 my-computer systemd[1]: Started Service for snap application every-1-min.every-1-min.
Sep 27 08:39:05 my-computer systemd[1]: Starting Service for snap application every-1-min.every-1-min...
Sep 27 08:39:06 my-computer every-1-min.every-1-min[21913]: hello
Sep 27 08:39:06 my-computer systemd[1]: Started Service for snap application every-1-min.every-1-min.

The confusion is that I can’t seem to stop this service from continuing to run even with snap stop --disable every-1-min.every-1-min:

$ sudo snap stop --disable every-1-min.every-1-min

The only way to disable the timer it seems is to disable the entire snap:

$ sudo snap disable every-1-min
every-1-min disabled

Now, as a tangent, I tried changing the daemon: oneshot to daemon: simple to see if that changed anything, and it just makes it so that the Starting Service for snap application every-1-min.every-1-min... line isn’t printed off to the logs anymore when the daemon runs (which makes sense). However I still see the same behavior where I can’t disable just the timer service with snap stop --disable and need to use snap disable.


  1. What’s the appropriate value for daemon for a service that has a timer? In my case the service is a simple command that gets run and finishes, so I assumed oneshot, but perhaps simple is better? Does it matter?
  2. Should the service really show up as “disabled” after installing? I think it shouldn’t. I think it should be “stopped”, i.e. Startup -> enabled and Current -> inactive, except during the time in between when the application is started by the timer and when it stops, so for example if the command was sleep 60 & echo "done", during the 60 seconds the service was sleeping Current should be active.
  3. Should snap stop --disable actually disable the timer from running again in the future? I think it should.

Ping @mborzecki

You should use the same value as you’d use when writing the service file for systemd yourself. I’ve used simple, oneshot should probably work too. Keep in mind that if the service is active at the time the timer expires, another one won’t be started

This looks odd indeed. From a quick look at the code snap stop <name> affects the service only, timers and sockets are not touched at all. As a workaround you’d have to manually stop and disable the timer using systemctl stop --disable snap.every-1-min.every-1-min.timer.

snapd should probably glow the ability to stop/start sockets and timer when called via snap [stop|start]. I think there’s also a little uncertainty about what the user wants to do. Since the service is socket/timer activated, when calling snap start <svc> should the service start or just the socket/timer?

I think it’s the same problem, snapd is only checking the status of the service, and not the socket or timer.

I think this is this bug: LP: #1784384.